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Hey everybody, welcome back to the loyalty program slam.
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I'm your host, Amber Collins, Marketing Manager here at NS Cloud.
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The comprehensive and agile staff solution for
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enterprise loyalty program management.
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The loyalty program slam is jam packed with real world commentary on some of
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the world's most beloved loyalty programs.
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Here's how it works.
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Each slammer has roughly two minutes to state their case on these four areas.
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Program for sign, value proposition, engagement, and performance.
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If you haven't checked out our other ones, be sure to visit the loyalty program
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slam collection on the loyalty lounge.
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Today, planners are Alex, head of strategy, staff, director of product
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solutions, and
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at least manager of digital and design.
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Today's program slam is speeder rewards by Speedway.
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It is a large chain of gas and convenience stores.
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They have beverages, snacks, other convenience items.
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They might even start to rival some QSRs.
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Their competitors include 7/11,
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Wawa, racetrack, and sheets.
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They have a free loyalty program and app program launched in 2004, the app a
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little bit later.
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But we're reportedly over 80 million users of this app in loyalty program.
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It features earning points for every gallon of gas and qualifying in store
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purchases,
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as well as redeeming those points for gas, merchandise, food items.
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They've got select product clubs and might align with some of your preferences,
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as well as a mobile app for payments right there on your phone.
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You don't even have to go wallet, account management, tracking, and redeeming
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points.
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And every year you earn a birthday bonus, so let's get into it.
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Let's start with at least today.
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Hey, so I kind of like what I like about this program in a couple different
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buckets,
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flexibility, ease of use, and engagement.
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I found that the program was really flexible.
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You can pick your own perk monthly if it's merchandise or fuel,
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and there's a lot of different categories to redeem.
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There's food beverages, gas, gift cards from ton of different retailers.
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So I really liked that you could choose a lot of how you redeem your points.
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I also thought that it's really easy to use.
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It's easy to earn and redeem in the app, and they have these club products.
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So beverage club, car wash club, gaming club.
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And if you purchase something in one of those clubs,
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you're automatically enrolled in the program.
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So it's super easy.
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And then there's a little barrier to start earning rewards and redeeming.
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So I just thought that ease of use was great.
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And there's also a lot of ways to engage with the program.
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There's partner rewards, there's gamification.
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You can win sweepstakes for snacks, for events, for beverages, for different
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things.
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So I just thought, you know, for-- I was kind of surprised at how interactive
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and engaging
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that everything was.
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And then just as another note, I just thought, you know,
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the app is really easy to use and it has great information.
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It's a store locator.
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You could find the closest speedway to you and get up to date prices.
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And just in terms of the overall design, the website's bright and energetic and
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fun.
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And I think it really plays off the energy of the logo.
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And it's just a good user experience.
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I like how they put the product shots for the categories instead of icons.
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So if you want a bag of Doritos, you know, you see the picture and it's right
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there.
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So I just thought there was a lot of great things about the program.
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And it'll be interesting to see how it expands when they add more partner
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categories.
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So I just thought there's a lot of opportunity for them to grow too.
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So--
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Yeah, I mean, you're always going to need gas.
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You have lots of different options for gas.
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And so this is a wonderful way to stand out, particularly for me.
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If I don't have to get out my two things, keys or wallet.
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And my car is pushed to start and I can just push-- I could just put my hand
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and open the door.
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I have the code on my door.
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So I never have to take my keys out for that.
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If I don't have to take my wallet by coming out to the gas station and just
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using the app
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to pay, I personally just love that experience.
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So Alice, you look like you are really digging that experience too.
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So how do you feel about Speedway?
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I think it's really good.
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I, to piggyback on what Elise said, I think the other fun things that they do
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are they're
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definitely taking advantage of brand relationships.
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So they're doing bonus points.
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If you buy specific products, they outline that every month for you.
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So I'm sure they're engaging those brands to have to pay for those types of
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placements
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and those types of bonuses.
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So I'm assuming they're monetizing that, which is great for a loyalty program
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to leverage
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that revenue, to offset the cost of the rewards and the cost of the benefits.
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The other thing I'd highlight is their credit card.
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So they have a speedy rewards credit card where you get a 25,000 bonus points
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for taking
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the card, not even that much on it.
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I think it's like $500 over three months and you unlock the bonus.
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Plus you get 50 bonus points for every dollar you spend on gas and in store on
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top of the
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standard amount of points that you earn for those products in general.
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So that's really interesting.
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It's a really big give back.
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And then you also get 10 points per dollar wherever you shop.
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So I think they've layered in the card really nicely into the program.
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The perks, the benefits, the rewards are really good.
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I am excited to see where partnerships go with them that are they going to be
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expanding
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more earn opportunities and acting more as a coalition.
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I think that's clearly something that's to come given it's saying that it's
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coming soon
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on their website.
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And the last piece I would say is I think that everything they're doing is nice
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, engaging
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the creative looks good, especially within the app.
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So I think that they have a very solid overarching program and structure.
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It's definitely impressive.
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Especially if you look at some of their competitors too.
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I agree.
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I mean, again, this is the necessary, the gas is a necessary product.
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And we know that gas shoppers are price sensitive.
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So even if you have this price and it's being offset by points like that, it
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really doesn't
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take much to get shoppers to switch.
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And then the whole experience overall and the building upon it with the tiers,
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then that's
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a great way to then once they switch to build a little bit loyalty.
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And so they become, I mean, we're talking about sense differences of sense,
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right?
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So if it's five cents more at speedway than somebody else, and I'm in the
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program and I
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know that this is going to be a long term earn for me, then I'm willing to
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overlook that
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five cents.
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And we were literally talking about the sense of difference.
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And sometimes it's also the side of the road that you're on.
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Are they willing to make a huge difference that comes to you?
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You know, like these are all the ways that consumers are proving their loyalty
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to these
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types of businesses.
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That, what do you think is speedway?
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So I agree with lots of options to spend.
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I, the clubs are there.
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There are lots of clubs I acknowledge that.
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But the clubs aren't really fitting my personal preference.
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And I like to see that there are a lot of options.
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But to me, there are too many options for like the redemption points.
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I know you kind of want to like make it universal to everybody.
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But I think that it's too confusing like what is in and what is out.
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Where I live, the biggest competitor is the Quick Trip program.
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And the Quick Trip program that I participated in the most because the fuel
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savings is there.
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I only get five cents off a gallon after 15 visits.
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So I have to do a visit whether I'm buying gas or whatever it's just based on
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the visits.
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So the 1750 for 10 cents off a gallon is about 175 gallons which average
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vehicle fuel tank
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is about 13 Phillips.
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So I'm hitting a 10 cents off a gallon to visit faster potentially using this.
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So to me, the math is there.
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But again, it's kind of that do I want to do think about my daily or do I want
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to think
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longer term.
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So then it just becomes like you said, a matter of convenience.
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I didn't see a lot of get to know me things.
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Like there's an opportunity there to kind of get to know my vehicle, get to
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know my driving
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habits so that you can make other kinds of offers to me.
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Like if you know what I'm feeling, what about when I fill up and you know like
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what I need
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to like you can do certain things around that.
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But really it's just kind of here's the today stuff.
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Here's this week's stuff.
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Take it or leave it.
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But the receipt summit is definitely a boon in my opinion because people forget
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or like
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I send one of my kids or my wife forgets to like put in my phone number so we
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can like
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consolidate all the earning just taking risk and receive.
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So again, they're making this easy but in some ways making it too universal.
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So it becomes confusing in my opinion.
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So you mentioned, you know, you guys, you and your wife deciding that you're
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going to
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use your phone number to consolidate points.
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Sounds like there's an opportunity there for some household being.
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And I think that often parents also give their children gas cards.
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And so they're kind of are behaving that way where everybody's trying to
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benefit because
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again, we all have to get gas.
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So that's what I'm hearing is that there's definitely an opportunity to do some
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household
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in there and then some progressive profiling.
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I think that that data could be really helpful in going back to Alex's point
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about where
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the partnerships are going to go and also pushing the push notifications they
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have an
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app.
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And that specifically is for this loyalty and so they could really get to, it
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could really
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get some really good data there.
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Right?
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Like, you know, when do you tend to fill up in the morning or the evening?
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All my commute, you know, whenever and it's like, you can imagine that you're
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driving down
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the road during your morning commute and they're like, need a coffee.
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It's Monday.
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You need a coffee.
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You know, here's your double points on French vanilla coffees that we know you
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love.
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So there's a lot of opportunity there.
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Also, I think in Minnesota, I don't know how y'all experience this as well,
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where like when
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it gets super stupid cold, the gas, like, expands and contracts a little bit.
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So like you're getting a little bit more or you know, it just doesn't sit right
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So doing things in different times of the day to encourage fill-ups when, you
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know, it's
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more beneficial to them.
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And something that they could do that, I know, is maybe more Minnesota specific
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, but it happens.
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I think Georgia's the opposite.
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I think, I think, whenever it happens to gas, it gets really hot.
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So, you know, I mean, we've briefly touched on some competitors.
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I will say this out here in Georgia, Quarkrover, and they have gas stations
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that some of their
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locations.
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And that's one that I really do enjoy using because it crosses over into other
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necessities
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in meaning groceries and they've got to act for that.
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And then I would say that they had a partnership when you don't have a Quarkro
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ver gas station
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that you can use them at Shell gas stations.
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So I definitely would also, I'm very interested to see like Alex said where the
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partnership
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goes, where they can bring in all these other sort of things around the
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experience and
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these necessary things, where if you're going to do it anyways, you might as
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well earn
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for it.
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So that brings us to our scorecard.
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So at least, how do you fill-up speedways to bind?
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I give it a 4.5.
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I just thought there were lots, you know, there's lots of great flexibility.
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It's really easy to use and there's some good engagement elements too.
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So I just think there's a lot that's working towards the overall design of the
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program.
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Alex?
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I give it a four.
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I think that one of the things it is missing, which might not be as needed
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within this
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industry, but they don't have any tearing.
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And I think, you know, to Scott's point, I think sometimes tearing can also
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help with like
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finding the right segments, being able to curate the types of offers that you
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give based
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on the value they give back and also thinking about those, you know, avid
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drivers, right?
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Like truck drivers, people that are constantly in there getting stuff, like
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making sure that
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they also feel that benefit without having to take the credit card because that
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's really
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the accelerant, is that piece?
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So I give it a four and I do like the clubs.
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I think that they could do a little bit of a better job of really featuring the
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main club,
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which is the beverage club.
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If you get any of their coffee or ICs or whatever, then you know, it's like a
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punch card.
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You get the seventh free.
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I think highlighting that a lot harder and then having the other clubs be
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available because
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they're branded.
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So they're again, they're probably monetizing that.
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But I would make a couple of those design tweaks and proposition tweaks to the
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consumer
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so that it reduces some of the complexity, but also thinking about how do they,
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you know,
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still elevate the fact that there is a really robust program.
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So I give it a four.
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Yeah, so I must have been incorrect in my research that I thought there were
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tears, but I've
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probably referring to the club's status as well because you could move up into
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club's
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status now, Scott, and my rate or my wrong there.
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Well, I didn't see it like overtly called out.
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So I guess maybe that is part of the design, part of it where it's not as
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obvious.
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Overall, I gave it a three because again, it is a spending program, like it is
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a spending
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getter.
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So when we talk about like engagement elements, you know, like talk about, you
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know, are we
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watching ways to save on fuel tips to, you know, keep your tire pressure, you
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know, at
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the right pressure, remind, you know, funny videos on cleaning out your car or
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something
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like that.
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Like there are things that they could be doing, especially for like summer road
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trip,
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you know, like tips and tricks.
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Like there are the things that they could be doing, but as a spend program, it
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's pretty
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good.
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Again, I think that there are too many options.
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I think that there, the clubs don't personally reach to me, but that's kind of
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my own thing,
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but there are no partners in my area either.
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So it's less meaningful, less impactful to me about that.
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So I give it a three.
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Yeah, so I think with like the clubs, I mean, there are so many and obviously
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those are,
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you know, sort of funded with, I'm assuming, partners, so that was guys like
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partners.
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But within it to cool, if it was kind of like you shop organically as a
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customer and then
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it kind of said, hey, you've become, you've become this level in the Lipton
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Pure Leaf Club
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and just sort of like organically, you've bought six mountain views.
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So now you are a delete status in the mountain.
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And just sort of like, you know, gamified a little bit and the experience that
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I'm really
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thinking about is more like, what is it like four square where you're like the
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mayor
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or something, right?
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And so it's almost like a little bit of like a leader board like, hey, you
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bought the
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most mountain view out of everybody.
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You are very confident in it.
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It's not hard, okay.
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But Scott, you were just talking about their engagement.
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It's a four-on-the-engagement.
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You want to say that again, your audio kicked it a little bit.
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Scott, you were just talking about some of those engagement elements.
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So why don't we jump down to engagement and watch your score?
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Two, because again, it's a real spending get kind of a program.
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Now, there are lots of options for the get and they make it very easy to
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understand the
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spend, but it's not engaging.
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I don't see anything, I don't feel anything where they're trying to like get
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into that
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consumer where they're trying to differentiate and ingratiate themselves beyond
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the spending
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bonuses.
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It's not to say that every program absolutely has to have it.
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This is doing pretty well without it, but it is to say that I don't feel like
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beyond
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the clubs that I'm going to be treated any differently than Alex or yourself,
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even though
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we have vastly different lives.
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Different spending habits, different areas where we live.
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So there's not really an engagement of get to know me for all of that.
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There's another app called like Upside and Gatsations pay to subsidize some of
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their 25 cents
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off a gallon and it's proximity based as well.
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So Upside is constantly sending push notifications.
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They expanded from gas to restaurant, emotions and things like that.
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So I don't particularly think that they're doing anything much better than what
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speedway is
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doing, but I say all that to say that there's competition in the marketplace
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around people
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who are push-notifying and offering discounts and really pulling on the demand
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that all of
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these gas stations have to share.
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So Alex, how do you feel about their engagement?
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I give it like a three and a half.
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I think it is a highly transactional program, but also the majority of people
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that are going
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to get the biggest benefit out of this are the hardcore drivers and truckers.
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So I think it's fair to be heavily positioned on the value back to you and the
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discounts.
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But that being said, I think there is that clear opportunity to try to learn
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more about the
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customer, engage them further with interactions, get them a little bit more of
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that brand love
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versus just the fact that I know I can save.
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And I think it will help them with some of their propositions because their
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touch, their
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tag is earn points, get rewards.
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And that's what the program is.
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That's it.
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So, yeah, I think the clubs you could play with are like build your own club.
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I like the idea of family hierarchies, but other ways to incent and get more
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information
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to do more with, I think is what they are missing.
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But otherwise, I think it's pretty engaging as a basic, not even basic, as a
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little bit
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more sophisticated transactional program.
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Elise, how do you feel about the programs you engage with?
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I gave in for a little bit higher, but I just, you know, I think in comparison
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with, you
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know, their competitors, I do think that they do offer, offer engagement,
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especially like
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like I was on their website today and there's like B of the IP and fanatics
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fest, like enter
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win.
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So, I mean, they do have a little bit of that experience based opportunities.
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It's not, you know, it's not their, at the forefront and it's not, I mean, they
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could
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probably do a little bit more in terms of what Scott was mentioning before.
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But they do think in their category, they are offering engagement opportunities
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Right?
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So, time for your back into the body composition.
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Sure.
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How do you feel about that, Elise?
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I mean, they gave it for because I just think, you know, there are
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opportunities to focus
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on, you know, there are partner rewards.
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And I know that they're expanding and I category now, but there, I mean, there
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's just,
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easy to earn points.
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It's easy to redeem points.
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I just think there is value to the consumer.
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If they sign up for the program and they're using it consistently, they are
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going to get
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a lot of rewards and they are going to get value from that.
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So, that's right.
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I think we're enough.
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Yeah.
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Elise, how do you feel about the value problem?
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I think it's, it's pretty fair.
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I mean, it's, like I said, it's very transactional, but the multiple weight,
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the base earning,
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the bonus earning, the clubs and the list of all the different rewards that you
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can redeem
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for.
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I mean, I think the value proposition is, is pretty straightforward and clear
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and does
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look clean within the app.
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So, I think the value proposition is pretty good.
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I would say, again, you gotta, you gotta get some gas, like, you know, at a
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pretty consistent
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pace, like at least going to, you know, two or three times a month to get as
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much value
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as you can, but I would say that the value prop to me is probably again like a
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three and
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a half.
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So, Scott, how do you feel about value in calling back the whole, you can get
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the state, you,
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you can get a higher or two visits, sooner, you know, I think that that was
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some good math
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that you did, that you did there.
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So, I gave it a five.
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Oh, my God.
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I mean, I've been at a lot of back for the historical harker, but that might be
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the first five
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that Scott has given.
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Is it spending to get program?
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It's, it's a good spending to get program.
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You know, kind of where you're at, it's easy to use.
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So the value of me doing this thing over and over at the same place that's
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convenient to
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me, you know, all those stars aligned, I'm getting a good value for it in my
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math and opinion.
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I'm doing it faster than the competition in my area and it's better.
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Instead of five cents, it's ten cents for fewer trips or for fewer visits.
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The clubs are in line with a lot of the other ones and the variance in that
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means that your
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club doesn't have to be the same as my club.
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I would love to see more partners, but again, I'm acknowledging the vast array
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of partners
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that are in the network and even though personally it doesn't affect me, like I
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'm still sticking
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with a five that I think, if you put all these things in a line, if I am
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consistently getting
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the gas that I'm going to be getting anyway, I'm going to get a better return
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than through
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some of the other programs.
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I love that and I just checked and we did get best lessons and a value of five.
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So these two brands have been knocking out the park.
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The fuel partner savings, they're very local.
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I'm noticing that they are literally calling out like this town in this state
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is where you
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have fuel partner savings.
21:52
And so that could be a strategy, like that could be a thing, like, you know,
21:56
that could
21:56
be like a value of the program that we support local businesses, but it's also
22:01
a lot of
22:02
work for your loyalty program manager to create those relationships, to do
22:06
whatever it
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takes to integrate and have those savings going on.
22:10
And so if they really take like sort of one very large retailer, whether this
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is grocery
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or something else, that would affect a lot more people as far as their
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partnerships go.
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So definitely looking to, it seems like the value that it brings for the people
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that live
22:29
in those areas, it might be something that is really, really valuable to them.
22:32
There was a precedent for that.
22:33
There was a precedent for that.
22:35
I think of like all of these like fast food, culverts, DQ, whatever, they're
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constantly
22:40
putting up like the sports teams that they are supporting.
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There is a precedent to do that.
22:45
So I think that to piggyback on yours, if they hired somebody who did that,
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they can
22:51
empower these managers to do these kinds of things because others in these
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small towns are already
22:58
doing them as well.
23:00
We definitely don't, you know, plan upon localization for sure.
23:03
I mean, that's just another form of personalization.
23:05
So, at least something to performance, Alex, how do you feel about the
23:09
performance of
23:10
the program?
23:11
Well, I think it's the largest program for fuel and convenience in the U.S. I
23:15
think there
23:16
was February or March of this year.
23:19
They said they surpassed 80 million members nationally.
23:23
And that's substantially larger than Shell, which has also a very large program
23:30
, leveraging
23:31
multiple earning scenarios, but they're at like 20 million.
23:34
So this is 4X.
23:35
And Chevron, I think, is maybe close to 1 or 2 million.
23:38
They've been making a lot of changes with their program and getting into a
23:41
better place.
23:43
So we'll see where that grows.
23:44
But yeah, I mean, I think from a performance standpoint, they're obviously
23:47
getting people
23:48
to participate and engage with it and stay around.
23:52
So I think it's very successful.
23:54
But I'd give it a 5, 80 million.
23:57
That's pretty impressive.
23:58
Wow, how do you feel about their performance?
24:00
Give it a 3, because, again, I think that these people are going to shop there
24:06
often anyway,
24:07
because it's the one on my way to work.
24:09
It's the one on my way home.
24:10
It's the one near my house.
24:12
So I think of the 80 million.
24:14
It's a lot of the other programs that we've reviewed slammed.
24:17
I'm going to be there anyway.
24:20
So give me something for it.
24:22
Yes, maybe I have an option across the street or something, but I'm probably
24:26
going to stop there
24:27
anyway.
24:28
So I tend to devalue those kinds of programs and say, I was going to do this
24:34
anyway.
24:35
This is a give back.
24:36
So I still stick with my 5 for the value prop because it is a better give back.
24:40
But performance wise, I don't know that they're moving the needle.
24:44
And that's car joke.
24:45
I've been changing that decision.
24:47
Yes, there is a slightly better value problem, but I think that people are
24:50
going to be stopping
24:51
there anyway.
24:52
So I think that they're not detracting from that.
24:55
I think that it's right in the middle of the three.
24:57
And I think to your point, there's one across the street.
25:00
That's not common in a lot of where you're shopping that the Nordstrom might
25:06
also like,
25:07
if it's in a mall, maybe it is near the Macy's or it's near something where I
25:10
know there's
25:10
other programs.
25:11
I don't know.
25:12
That's like some of the most competitive threat.
25:14
Because gas stations are almost always across the street or kitty corner from
25:17
each other.
25:17
So it's interesting.
25:18
I think that the turnover in a big U-turn for.
25:21
Yeah, I think churn rate is a big factor here.
25:23
And I think that with 80 million, their churn is probably likely not that's not
25:28
that bad
25:28
because I'd rather keep earning points there than go to the shell across the
25:31
street.
25:32
And even if it's a couple pennies off, they fight each other a little bit when
25:35
you usually
25:36
pass them.
25:37
But I don't know.
25:38
I don't know.
25:39
I think it's a 20 million.
25:40
How many of the 20 million are also in the 80 million?
25:44
Because I would venture that there's a, it's just I sign up for the program
25:48
because I just
25:49
have to enter in my phone number or something when I stop for gas.
25:53
So I would say that to show a difference, you'd have to show a difference in
25:58
membership
25:59
base.
26:00
I shop at Nordstrom.
26:01
I don't shop at Macy's.
26:02
Yeah.
26:03
You know that kind of differentiation.
26:04
I don't know if you think that people have preferences for gas stations though.
26:09
I think that's really good.
26:10
I do.
26:11
But a state of rights is based on quality of gas or perceived quality of gas as
26:16
well.
26:17
And so also if you don't have to fight for every single time that your customer
26:20
gets gas
26:20
either, you just have to do it.
26:22
You have to get them enough and get that share of when they get gas because of
26:27
course you
26:27
can't also, you also cannot predict where they're going to need when and where
26:30
they're
26:31
going to need gas.
26:32
So that's a whole nother, you know, real estate strategy.
26:36
But you don't have to get here on a road train.
26:38
That's not going to matter as much.
26:40
Then like if you're just driving around town and you have your preferred
26:43
station.
26:44
Or you don't want to lie to yourself and say you're going to get gas in the
26:47
morning so
26:47
you always stop at that one right before you go to your house because it's on
26:50
the side
26:51
of the street because you're part of the program because they have good prices
26:54
and perceived
26:55
good quality of gas and it's convenient to use.
26:57
So that convenience heart rate is massive.
27:00
And cleanliness, especially around a road trip, like that's where buckies is
27:04
always a
27:04
favorite.
27:05
It's like a target with a super clean bathroom, good food.
27:10
And then yeah, the gas is easy and you can go.
27:12
The only thing that they have is they have lines and lines and lines sometimes.
27:16
But no, it is funny.
27:17
I was like, I will only go to buckies on a road trip if I can because that's
27:21
just so much
27:21
better than any other one.
27:22
Well, if you're on another country, another consideration of consumer safety.
27:27
You know, you don't want to stop at a place that is dimly lit.
27:30
You don't want to stop at a place where you know that you can't really tell if
27:33
the
27:33
attendance inside.
27:35
And so there's just a lot of different reasons why somebody's choosing one gas,
27:38
they should
27:39
over another and to Scott's point.
27:42
Where does the loyalty program rank in that, right?
27:44
Right.
27:45
So at least round us out with your score for performance.
27:50
So I wasn't 100% sure where to go with this.
27:52
But after hearing both the arguments, I think I'm going to kind of go in the
27:55
middle and go
27:56
with the floor.
27:57
Just because that's what I've sort of ranged like the rest of the elements of
28:00
the program
28:01
to.
28:02
And I don't know what that but yeah, I mean they have obviously a huge number
28:09
of people enrolled
28:10
in the program.
28:12
They have a, I feel like they have a really solid program and there's
28:17
opportunities for them
28:18
to, you know, add more features in the future.
28:22
So I want to leave like a little room for like those options in my score too.
28:27
But yeah, well for all I think it's a really strong, strong program.
28:32
Well, the average score definitely reflects that.
28:34
It's average score of all this is going to be a 3.79, which is actually quite,
28:38
you know,
28:38
on the higher side for us if we've been doing this now.
28:42
You know, people that we did in the beginning forgive us if we were a little
28:45
bit more strict.
28:46
But yeah, so it looks to me like you know, speed, speed, rewards.
28:50
For given the type of business that it is, the purchase frequency, all of these
28:53
other factors
28:54
that come into making the choice of this, you know, it seems like they're doing
28:58
a really
28:59
great job with their program.
29:02
It's an interesting space to be in.
29:04
I just like how they, you know, considered all these other things as well, like
29:07
, you know,
29:08
like adding in the POS with the loyalty and just really adding the convenience
29:12
to convenience
29:13
stores.
29:14
So that's been our show.
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Okay.
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I like it.
29:18
I like it.
29:19
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29:21
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